In fact, God Doom, who possessed. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. Dude is literally from a universe(?) that is larger than the entire marvel universe(?), and was it's sole occupant. FinalStar86. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. anyways Q isn't omnipotent either and he doesn't have any feats that rival PR Beyonder so PR Beyonder. Gen. However Lucifer ig is the same. Lucifer Morningstar vs The Beyonders. 0. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. ago. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Jul 30, 2018. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. Molecule Man. Living_Beyonder. #1. So yeah, this is the same Beyonder that had PR Molecule Man crying on Vulcana's lap and decimated the entire multiverse just by getting angry. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as PR Beyonder. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. #1. Beyonder 39%. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad. The difference between that portrayal and what Pre-Crisis Superman was capable of is most likely over a dozen orders of magnitude greater than the one between an amoeba and Pre-Crisis Superman. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. If Doom goes at full confidence in. she is not omnipotent, but PR beyonder and TOAA are, and PR beyonder is at LT level, which means TOAA wins. Posts. Round 2: Thanos has 1 year. PR Beyonder is actually that powerful. Trigon took over 12 universes as a child and destroyed countless more. Wiki Points. The Beyonder can take on Galactus and Superman isn't as strong and he would lose. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Sexy Merc said: " @Pr_Beyonder: I'm a huge ass Wally fanboy myself. 2 years ago. The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis) The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in. Thanos w/ Astral Regulator is the strongest character in Marvel-verse. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. RULES:Morals off. 12 years ago. The first thing here is this is only a character. It was obvious there that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would absolutely ra-pe a 100% Galactus. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. Beyonder easily. PR Beyonder is avobe angels and HOTU Thanos is at presence level as I read in "The End" comics. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. PR Beyonder. No. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Both equally were sharing same body as explained in mutant x #32. level 2 · 1y. Follow 15044. ago. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. i mean ya the pr beyonder and dr solar are apparently omnipotent , but you should not forget the phoenix . (Cuz there are none. The Beyonder First Appeared In 'Secret Wars'. That was Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Thanos (HOTU) Very debatable. I don't think Living Tribunal was there, neither was oblivion. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. Funny, didn. Followers. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. u/nullfather can attest to that. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. I almost think they should be banned. Wiki Points. 0. A universe that is more powerful. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel. 13 votes, 12 comments. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. I don't know a. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. @Pr_Beyonder: immortal means unable to die of age or sickness Thor isn't coughing on him or waiting around for him to age to death he's smashng his head into chuncks of mushy brain 13 years ago. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. lazerbeak. TR was created by this. Followers. ) The main issue here would be whether Beyonder. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. vs. 8 years ago. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. Molecule Man : r/whowouldwin. Reviews: 0. A fraction is still much more power than basic reality warping. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. Beyonder solos. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. Wiki Points. 9 years ago. "TOAA & The Presence play the same respective roles in DC and Marvel. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Battle has been done so many damn times. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. Forum Posts. Forum Posts. Random encounter. Lucifer WINS. Jul 30, 2018. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. Beyonder is the bigger god. Round 2: Molecule Man after the retcon Beyonder era. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. 0. He's in seriouLiving Tribunal has been repeatedly demolished by reality warpers who have total control over the multiverse. Location. Share. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. Forum Posts. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. As well as being compared to Pre Crisis Spectre, who dwarfs Odin, to Galactus and classic Exitar levels. PR Beyonder by feats and by on-panel dialogue. And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. And to OP I say Korvac wins this. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. With Marvel having beings like the LT, Protege,PR Beyonder,PR Molecule Man,Scanthan The Approver,Multi-Eternity,Oblivion,Life Bringer Galactus and many others. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Pr Beyonder made LT his little bitch, along with everyone else in the multiverse. • 1 year ago. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. Forum Posts. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. . Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. 13 years ago. The Beyonder is at full power and wants to destroy the universe, you can assemble a team of 10 cosmic beings from Marvel and DC to stop him, out of t. So, yeah, no worries there. Otherwise we're looking at LT-beating omnipotent vs. Dr. No chance of being omnipotent. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Lucifer Morningstar rated 1A. PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. Another thing about the. Oct 30, 2006. 7 years ago. PR Beyonder was also a beast, without equal that was ever created orignally in it's existence (by Marvel). His weakness is a lack of understanding of. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. dope matchup. #1 quandaledingle. During PR Beyonder's time, the idea of TOAA had never been established. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. I don't think Oblivion can be destroyed. MM has the powers of the Beyonders, the Beyonders were still linear beings constrained and restricted by time, they were able to be killed by overwhelming power like Starbrand,. New Comics. Nah, it’s generally recognised that PR Beyonder is above TOAA and the Presence. 0. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. Following Secret. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. #1 KalKent1297. The Demon of Elru. The Crimson King. Post-Retcon Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man and Unbound Spectre. His. 11 years ago. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. Nobody can beat PR Beyonder. MJJ is top 5 in Marvel for reality warping, but he has very limited actual feats, but its. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. If Iron Man can. 13 years ago. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. Still "omniverse" is a nonsense. 3rd. The Presence. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. @majestic99. It would also destroy the. No offense man, but Johnny is right on the fact that PR Beyonder is = TOAA. Forum Posts. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that he. 11 years ago. 0. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. m99. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. This topic is locked from further discussion. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. Beyonder easily. Jul 30, 2018. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. The beat LT list is: TOAA, anyone with the Heart of the Universe, PR Beyonder, PR Moleculeman, MoM The match or near match LT list is: and experienced Infinity Gauntlet User The upscale but still. Based on Marvel’s cosmology back in the 80’s - 90’s (which I mentioned in the scalin I provided), Classic Beyonder would be Outerversal since he is ”beyond” the Marvel Multiverse. 4 years ago. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. 0. So yeah PR Beyonder would stomp Lucifer. He was said to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel universe(?). If The Presence go to Beyond-verse (the pre-retconed one) or to Marvel , he will lose against TOAA or PR Beyonder because he won't be omnipotent there. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. vs. The Beyonder's, on the other hand, aren't and that's what will give him the win. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Likewise, nothing in Toaru would even constitute a threat to the lowliest monsters in the Scarlet King's army. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. BEYONDERGOD. Thanos with HOTU vs PR is still argued but do note all the cosmics were begging PR MM to fight Beyonder. 815. This is Marvel Vs Dc to see who has had the biggest Villain threats of all time. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. A. Round 5, 6, 7 and 8: same as rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 except that Batman is bloodlusted, he is working with Doom and Reed Richards and has 100x preparation time. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. ". None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. Darkseid depends, but i think a hakai would destroy an avatar. Home Lists Doctor Manhattan Vs. . Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. PR Beyonder is the lesser of the two, so there we have it. MM is powerful enough to rebuild the marvel multiverse completely from scratch, and he was nowhere near as strong as PR Beyonder when they fought during SW2. We're talking about a guy who recreated the omniverse just by thinking about it and decimated the entire multiverse just. Lord Urizen. There are like at least dozens DC. Followers. Ultra (Ultraman) 4. Posted by u/galactusisathiccboi - 4 votes and 14 commentsLol at Battler stronger than PR Beyonder. Everything that could have shown up to stop PR beyonder did, and all of them failed. He was so powerful that nothing in the Marvel Multiverse. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. Random encounter. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. also the living tribunal couldnt even do anything to PR beyonder. PM not so much. Follow 3074. Doom, and Constantine team up, trick Presence into coming to Marvel Universe where he isn't. I don't know a. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. 1. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. London, UK. One Above All (Stan Lee) Fulcrum (Jack Kirby) Living Tribunal. This is Beyonders not the famous PR Beyonder. No. I am guessing since you said The Beyonder rather than A Beyonder you mean PR Beyonder, in which case he stomps. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. Pokergeist. Wiki Points. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. 2. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. I’m goin wit Batman. He. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. LocatiNew Comics. Wiki Points. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. 313. Forum Posts. Wiki Points. 0. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. . Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. Forum Posts. Holo-Man • 3 yr. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. This topic is locked from further discussion. Bonus: Nothing that I know of. The one below all (TOBA). Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. New Comics. m outperformed beyonder,, And in Alan Moore’s watchmen, dr. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. And even then some endless beat pr beyonder. Of this, The Beyonder is the Supreme Being of that Outerverse, which is orders of magnitude larger than the Infinite Multivwrse. Oblivion is just another aspect of Death and Beyonder removed her from reality just like he would Oblivion. Follow 7842. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. Beyonder saying he's omnipotent or gaining back his powers doesn't confirm his omnipotence. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @FLCL1 said: " @demifiend said: " current mohamed ali "he beats his ass "Muhammad Ali would kick kick ass's ass. #41 cdavis6149. As stated, numerous times throughout secret wars and in separate interviews with the creator (shooter) the beyond realm (and thus the beyonder's power) was MILLIONS OF TIMES greater than the marvel multiverse (again, Pre retcon this is ALL of marvel and. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. Could not. Apr 2014. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. 0. The Beginners Guide To Comics: Come Join The Discord: Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. When a guy who can repair the entire multiverse with. 0. Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. -5. PR Beyonder's best feat is embodying a realm beyond the multiverse. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. 5. Bump. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. -You may take DNA samples from 5 different Alien Races from any fictional media. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. Protege and Mad Jim Jaspers are kind of wild cards. Also, what would you rank him as? A. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Minor nitpick. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. Forum Posts. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. That is how PR Beyonder was described, a verse so vast, that Marvel was a. Air Legend. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size.